What makes a character ?(game/anime) memorable for you?_?

[kensyu]

Just curious on you peoples tastes =p

Me I can't seem to think of any at the moment (spacing out).

[Dick Nation]

Tits.

[GEL]

Overall sexy cuteness with female characters. The more a character can be sexy and cute at the same time, the better. For example: Nanako ^_^

Dark skin with blonde or pink hair is always a winner as are girls who are waaaaaay too hot for their age (manga Misty).

...and of course, Bunny/Cow girls ^_^ and an abuse of Engrish.



As for guys? Usually doing something completely ridiculous or just being ridiculous in general. See also: Damuramu.

Being in either Dragon Half or GoDanner also makes a character memorable to me ^_^




...okay, so my favorite kinds of anime involve giant robots, giant tits, and comedy. So shoot me dammit! (In short: Hell yes I love GoDanner! ditto with Dragon Half & Arcade Gamer Fubuki)


If we move away from looks and more into personality, my favorites tend to be batshit insane, tomboyish, and with a love of videogames. In short my perfect woman XD

(That would be: Allenby Beardsley, the cast of Arcade Gamer Fubuki, Ed and Excel)

[GEL]

Also being a typical ninja and/or using claws or appearing in Street Fighter 1 are also things that make memorable male characters to me.

...being a liquid life form, robot, or bug also helps ^_^

[kensyu]

Got around to thinking =p

Me I like a good unique design with a strong personality (i.e. Blue Mary, Meia and Ifurita ). And sometimes overly cute/retarded characters seem fun at times (but not male one -_0). In males I like typical psychos or cold personas but not angst ones (like Dr. Jackal and Saito, hates Albel)

Also a good psychological and research study is also nice on a character (i.e. most Rorouni Kenshin characters)

[Photon]

Admirable qualities, unique hair or outfits, and a lot of it deals with how much I can relate to a character based on experiences and such. "First impressions last" sometimes count as well, since there are some characters who, though they eventually change, just struck me as pricks the first time around and thus I have a hard time liking them, despite them being memorable (e.g. Neji and Sasuke in Naruto


Tits.

[Vic Viper]

Yeah, the cutsiness of the nature for me. For non girl characters, its seem that I like cutsy machines. Examples: Parodius versions of the Vic Viper and Lord British and the TwinBees.

For girls:

-Well, its mainly the buggy eyes.
-Cutsy hair color: blonde and pink.
-Medium chested. Not too big.
-I guess if they can talk, high pitch sounding voice.
-Also don't forget perfect medium size ass.

Yup, I perfer medium.

[Racewing]

Males:
- Must possess common sense and a can-do attitude. I hate angst, I hate whining, AND I CAN'T FREAKING STAND WHITE HAIR. (See: FF8's Squall Leonhart. KH's Squall, however, is totally rockin'.)
- Must be able to be discernable as a guy. I don't mean the ass-scratching, game-watching burping stereotype. I just don't want Gackt. If you try to sell me Gackt, I WILL RIP OUT YOUR ARMS FROM YOUR SOCKETS. Handsome is cool--pretty is not.
- Must have flaws of some kind. Not forced or anything, not "he's too nice for his own good!" Just... believably human.
- Being self-absorbed is only good if it's done in a comedic way.

My favorite male characters of all time are Vyse from Skies of Arcadia, Sonic the Hedgehog, Ron Stoppable, SF's Ken Masters, and more recently, Caleb from W.i.t.c.h.

Females:
-Must be hot.
- Must not be a whiny, prissy bitch. Angst and turmoil, however, is acceptable in moderation, because it's sexy on girls and is all the more fun to pick apart with the series's peppier, more light-hearted character. Preferably by way of a snuggle-fest and happy lesbian romp under pink bedsheets. ^_^ (See: Raven, or X-Evo Rogue. It should be noted at this point that I AM SUCH A GODDAMN WALKING DOUBLE-STANDARD.)
- Must be hot.
- Must be able to "do it for themselves"; to be resourceful. Being able to kick tremendous amounts of ass in a highly violent manner is looked favorably upon, but in no ways required. But damsels-in-distress = not the Racey's thing.
- Must be hot.
- Excessive perkiness/happiness = also not the Racey'sthing. And fuck pink hair.
- Must be hot.
- Brains = + 500 :spooge:-points. Glasses = +100.
- MUST. BE. HOT. Or at least have that mousey girl-next-door cuteness.

All-time favorites: Beyond Good and Evil's Jade, SF's Sakura Kasugano, Skies of Arcadia's Aika, Chrono Trigger's Lucca, W.i.t.c.h.'s Irma, and Totally Spies's Alex. Honorable mention goes to JCA's Jade Chan--yes, both young and old. :P

So, yeah. I guess what I'm trying to say is... fuck angst.

And Skies of Arcadia has the greatest cast of characters you never met.

[kensyu]

So, yeah. I guess what I'm trying to say is... fuck angst.

And Skies of Arcadia has the greatest cast of characters you never met.

Try the atelier iris game coming out from NIS you might like it. Good set of characters and fun game too. Also good character development =p.

[Gavok]

I'm a major fan of characters dealing with redemption (Scorpion, Chang, Choi, Juggernaut, Deadpool, Hal Jordan, Darth Vader, etc).

I'm mainly into two types of villains. If they aren't totally evil, then the reasons for them being evil should be completely understandable. For instance, I see Rugal as being completely evil. But for Geese, I like to think of his backstory in the Fatal Fury 2 anime as being canon. You know, the whole thing where he and Krauser were kids. I find that explains a lot about how he ended up.

I only seem to like totally pure-hearted hero characters if they come across as some kind of authority. Like Kim Kaphwan, Yoshimitsu and Captain America. All 100% good and heroic, but also great leaders.

[Langknow]

Memorable characters for me must have:

Style: e.g Arucard from Hellsing, Crusnik from Trinity Blood

Dual Personality : e.g The character is considered weak by others, or others don't know the true power of that character, Arucard comes to mind, and the Crusnik form Trinity Blood, Naruto is also there with his nine tails. Also Luffy from one piece is kinda dual personality.

Overall Badass characters who aren't too show off.

[Hyperguy]

Originality, charm, and execution. Those are what makes a game character memorable to me.

Like for example,

Dan from Street Fighter
He's original because he's a joke character, and is weak by design.
He's charming because even though he is very weak, he's also extremely enthusiastic and serious about fighting.
No one else taunts like, or as cool as Dan. He's taken the most annoying aspect of a fighting game and made it cool.

Shiki Tohno from Tsukihime
He's original because of his special ability, the eyes of death and his ability to cut through anything.
He's charming because he values life, and manages to inadvertantly draw the affections of the girls around him with his compassion and honesty.
Based on the situation he's in he can either be weak and sickly, or a hot blooded killer. It's because he's able to be so undeniably human one moment, and able to kill powerful beings like vampires the next that make him such a cool character.

Spiderman from The Amazing Spiderman
He's original because no other super hero travels like Spiderman. He jumps, swings, and flips his way through a city, and that only scratches the surface of his originality.
He's charming because even though he's a powerful superhero, people can identify with Spiderman's alter ego Peter Parker.
As cool as Spiderman is on his own his universe is much, much cooler. It's because of how well he's able to adapt to everything being thrown his way that makes him seem that much more super.

[Geron Kizan]

Games:
Originality, Ability, and ease of control

Anime:
Originality, charm, and in the case of females: beauty

[Dick Nation]

Also, being very loud or very big (or both) makes male characters memorable.

BANGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BEEEEEEEEEEG WHOOOOOOOOOORE

TIGERRRRRRRRRRRRR ROAAAAAAAAAAAAARD

OYAAAAAAAAAAJI

POTEMKIIIIIIIIIIN BUSTAAAAAAAAAAH

I think you get the idea.

[GEL]

If you try to sell me Gackt, I WILL RIP OUT YOUR ARMS FROM YOUR SOCKETS.
XD

...seriously though, give Bujingai a chance. Somehow it's my favorite non-Dynasty Warriors action game this console generation. I guess effeminate pop stars just get great games (see also: Moonwalker).
- Being self-absorbed is only good if it's done in a comedic way.
OH GOOD GOD! Gokudo! I completely forgot how awesome he is!

If there's one thing that drive me batty it's the "Guy who's a complete ass until the very end when he suddenly becomes good for no reason". Gokudo is 100% ass all the way through. YAY! ^_^

- Must be able to "do it for themselves"; to be resourceful. Being able to kick tremendous amounts of ass in a highly violent manner is looked favorably upon, but in no ways required. But damsels-in-distress = not the Racey's thing.
I definately agree here. Sadly I think my entire reason for disliking Naruto dates back to a certain review here at HerV...
Haruno Sakura's character in Naruto serves the purpose of being 'the japanese female,' and little more. Bursting with untapped potential, treated as a second class ninja, eternally jobbing and consistently being placed in the role of either cheerleader, rescue bait, or as a last resort, reluctant savior, Sakura is the complete archetype for modern Japanese woman. She's beautiful, charming, intelligent, and generally positioned out of the way, to be seen and not heard.
Instant Lose. (also CatboyOK's BR:PF review makes me shake fists at him)
- Excessive perkiness/happiness = also not the Racey'sthing. And fuck pink hair.
XD That's MY department ^_^
And Skies of Arcadia has the greatest cast of characters you never met.
I agree only because of Aika and my weakness to redheads and chicks who look good in yellow (Aika, April O'Neil, Faye Valentine...HOW DO THEY DO IT?!).

[Dick Nation]

This is great, too. (http://www.geocities.com/ninjabie/ChoiSong.mp3)

[Racewing]

I will never, for the life of me, understand why Dan Hibiki still has fans past 1996.

Zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.

[GEL]

I will never, for the life of me, understand why Dan Hibiki still has fans past 1996.

Zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.
It's because the internet demands the ultimate dream match:

Dan Hibiki VS Bonus-Kun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EDIT: I do believe being a punching bag is another good character trait for male anime characters.

[Mediocrity]

I guess it takes a certain mindset to be able to appreciate Dan (which I don't have).

I think writing is important for a memorable character. If a character is written well, not only through their actions (as in, they stay in-character) but through their words, it really ties together all the periphery attributes.

[Racewing]

EDIT: I do believe being a punching bag is another good character trait for male anime characters.

...oh, God, you're noT one of those people who likes that reverse-domestic-violence-getting-punched-into-the-moon-by-random-anime-girls crap, are you?

"kekekkeke keitaro got punched into teh sun again when will he ever learn!"

[NeoChaosX]

And Skies of Arcadia has the greatest cast of characters you never met.
Truth. Saved for a couple villians, almost every character in that game had something that made me like or at least notice them.

[Dick Nation]

I will never, for the life of me, understand why Dan Hibiki still has fans past 1996.

Zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.

I identify with him?

I mean, really, I LOOK JUST LIKE HIM.

[Racewing]

Oh, shit, that's right. (It also explains a lot :D)

You're the lone exception, then.

[The DG]

I like a character who, from the standpoint of critiquing writing/directing, surprises me. That is to say, it doesn't have to be a character of any specific type, as long as they do something that's new and unusual instead of just playing to The Same Old Script that exists for virtually any genre of entertainment, I'll like them.

A good example of this would be Vash the Stampede. He's a completely cliche 'Won't kill no matter what!' morally perfect superhero. Right? Well, except that unlike Superman or Captain America (before comics went all emo, anyway) he screws up and gets people killed in the process. You expect him to go out and win against all odds and save everybody without hurting anyone, because he's the hero and the genre standard plays out that way. But that's not what happens, and I like it.

I can still like characters if they don't have any surprises in store, but I couldn't really say what makes me like them in those cases. I guess I'll try anyway, though:

Male Characters: A sarcastic sense of humor is a big, big plus. Characters like Atton (KOTOR2), Hermes (JLU), and basically anyone on Buffy/Angel who have a down-to-earth but sarcastic attitude always work well for me. Aside from that, deadpan delivery type characters like Batman and Martian Manhunter (JLU) are always good when properly used.

I normally don't care for overly emotional/exciteable characters like Inuyasha who yell constantly, lose their temper for trivial/inexplicable reasons, and feel some irresistable urge to constantly throw themselves into ZOMG ACSHUN POSES!

Female Characters: I'm actually starting to dislike the "I'm not a female archetype!" archetype. It's this horribly overwrought character male writers create when they're trying too hard to make a character that's 'empowering' and/or 'inoffensive' to militant feminists. They're all pretty damn near identical in personality and behavior and they aren't interesting in the least.

I like female characters who are very strong and/or good at what they do but (see above) aren't unnecessarily serious about it. A good example is Sniper Wolf; she's an excellent sniper, but that doesn't mean she can't have a little fun with her prey. How much more boring would she have been if she'd just been the stereotypical "I'm better at my job than any man because I'm a woman!" character and just shot Snake in the head without warning?

I don't really care much about the aesthetics of a female character's design, though it kind of annoys me when people go out of their way to make a 'butch' character way, way, waaaaaay too butch. You know what I mean, the ten foot tall Amazons with gravelly voices and a male physique. I mean, Christ, women can be butch lesbians without mutating into some kind of ogre, people.

[Racewing]

Female Characters: I'm actually starting to dislike the "I'm not a female archetype!" archetype. It's this horribly overwrought character male writers create when they're trying too hard to make a character that's 'empowering' and/or 'inoffensive' to militant feminists. They're all pretty damn near identical in personality and behavior and they aren't interesting in the least.

http://www.frumpy.com/images/juniperlee/juniperlee_full.jpg
I like female characters who are very strong and/or good at what they do but (see above) aren't unnecessarily serious about it. A good example is Sniper Wolf; she's an excellent sniper, but that doesn't mean she can't have a little fun with her prey. How much more boring would she have been if she'd just been the stereotypical "I'm better at my job than any man because I'm a woman!" character and just shot Snake in the head without warning?

ENT.
I don't really care much about the aesthetics of a female character's design, though it kind of annoys me when people go out of their way to make a 'butch' character way, way, waaaaaay too butch. You know what I mean, the ten foot tall Amazons with gravelly voices and a male physique. I mean, Christ, women can be butch lesbians without mutating into some kind of ogre, people.
Damn right.
http://img272.echo.cx/img272/2745/oulan017tm.gif

So, yeah, I love you right now, and shit.

[Racewing]

A sarcastic sense of humor is a big, big plus.
I can't believe I forgot about this.

Add Shego to my Favorite Characters Ever list. Kim, however, comes nowhere near it.

[Dick Nation]

*picture of people with flattened heads*

What the fuck are you up to NOW, Winick?

And does it mean you'll give Green Arrow to someone else?

[Racewing]

What the fuck are you up to NOW, Winick?

And does it mean you'll give Green Arrow to someone else?
You know this guy?

[Dick Nation]

No, this is just me expressing my discontent. :(

If I knew him, I'd be punching him in the face.

[Racewing]

Ah.

Maybe this isn't the best time to tell you that he seems to have landed a cartoon deal. Juniper Lee (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/juniperlee/)'s this upcoming show on CN about this girl who apparently fights monsters while being all EMPOWURD and COOL... all while balancing the pressures of teenage life!

(shakes head) Guys, Kim Possible and Totally Spies were parodies. That's the only reason why they worked :(

[Racewing]

(does some checking)

...KATH SOUCIE VOICES THE LITTLE KID?

How the mighty and sexy have fallen ;_;

[Mr. Pointy]

I like characters with well-written personalities. Sarcastic humour and/or tortured pasts are bonuses. I also have a habit of liking the wallflowers (Maya from NGE) or the totally insane characters (Excel).

[GEL]

...oh, God, you're noT one of those people who likes that reverse-domestic-violence-getting-punched-into-the-moon-by-random-anime-girls crap, are you?

"kekekkeke keitaro got punched into teh sun again when will he ever learn!"
XD no I was just referring to Bonus-Kun's awesome "Punching Bag who Kicks Ass"-ness. That is SUCH a brilliant idea for a character! I love the absurd.

...but yeah, I do enjoy watching Team Keitaro blasting off again. I love Kaolla Su! Any woman who runs around with a Dreamcast on their head is good in my book!

THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD ONE! Running around with a Dreamcast on your head. Yes, that definately is a good character trait.
A good example of this would be Vash the Stampede. He's a completely cliche 'Won't kill no matter what!' morally perfect superhero. Right? Well, except that unlike Superman or Captain America (before comics went all emo, anyway) he screws up and gets people killed in the process. You expect him to go out and win against all odds and save everybody without hurting anyone, because he's the hero and the genre standard plays out that way. But that's not what happens, and I like it.
Certain fan fags would say this was why the anime sucks as Vash didn't do that in the manga. If nothing else it's agreed that when Vash finally kills is the point where the anime goes from being awesome to sucking, not because he killed but because he mopes about it for the rest of the episodes.

I prefer to ignore the existance of the final DVD of Trigun ^_^
I normally don't care for overly emotional/exciteable characters like Inuyasha who yell constantly, lose their temper for trivial/inexplicable reasons, and feel some irresistable urge to constantly throw themselves into ZOMG ACSHUN POSES!
Oooooh! Now THAT reminded me of something: Characters that are so over the top they become a parody of themselves, like DOMOOOOOOON KASHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!

...seriously. He rocks.
I don't really care much about the aesthetics of a female character's design, though it kind of annoys me when people go out of their way to make a 'butch' character way, way, waaaaaay too butch. You know what I mean, the ten foot tall Amazons with gravelly voices and a male physique. I mean, Christ, women can be butch lesbians without mutating into some kind of ogre, people.
...but I liked Jinni!

On THAT note, that did remind me: Female characters that really shouldn't be hot yet are tend to really win with me. I think all of my insane fetishes can best be summed up as an Absurdity Fetish. The more absurd yet hot something is, the better.

Take the Crab Chicks from Idol Project: They're CRAB WOMEN! They SHOULDN'T be HOT, yet they totally ARE!

Or manga Misty: She's a fucking 12 year old, she shouldn't be FUCKING FLAMINGLY HOT WITH A DAMN FINE BOOTY, yet she is!

or the Lineage 2 Dwarf and Orc women: THESE SHOULD NOT BE HOT YET TOTALLY ARE!



Absurd=Win. Let's just leave it at that.

[Esco]

(game based because I'm not into anime much these days)

I like male characters that I can relate with or behave like me. I like the middle-tier guys who aren't the main characters. Anyone who will take care of their shit decisively, have a strong personality and/or be funny, but not excessively goofy (Joe/Dee Jay are cool, Duck King is too far). Also naturally gravitate towards characters that kick a lot. I also really like old people who can kick ass convincingly.

Emo bishounens, magicians (FIGHT ME WITH YOUR FISTS AND FEET, DAMN YOU!) and fucking KIDS can DIE.

Good: Ralf, Eddy, Fei Long, J.Talbain, Bruce, Wang, Rick, Lee Rekka, Wan Fu
Bad: Bao, Benimaru, Kyo, Iori, Remy, Chris, Nicotine, Amakusa, Soiree

Any male character that goes, "Ohohohohoho!" like a woman or "Cam oun!" is grounds for execution of the designer.

I like female characters that are strong and sexy and preferably have excellent hindquarters. I hate high pitched cute-girl stereotype characters that don't even come CLOSE to looking like they even belong in a goddamn tournament and just make a nonstop barrage of shrill cutesy noises and mannerisms. BBH, Vic and KK can fucking HAVE Ingrid, Athena, and that fucking Ai from NGBC whose standing animation makes her look like a goddamn RETARD. Just fucking cute noises and poses and 'magic attacks' and shit, get the fuck out of my game.

*deep breath*

Anyway, sexy women that can fight and look good doing it- style & strong personalities/spunk/zest/breasts help. I guess the key word here is 'women' and not 'girls'. Young girls are cool if they fight well (Ibuki, Karin, Akira). Basically they should act like they belong in the context of the game/story and not be pedo-bait or do that cute act bullshit.

Good: Chun, B.Mary, Julia, Christie, Vanessa, Maki, Jenet, Leona, King
Bad: Ai, Ingrid, Athena, Xiaoyu, Momo, Mignon, Kula, Cham Cham

Remy should've been a girl.

[Racewing]

Where is that fucking shaking smiley gif when I need it?

[Gustov]

...oh, God, you're noT one of those people who likes that reverse-domestic-violence-getting-punched-into-the-moon-by-random-anime-girls crap, are you?

"kekekkeke keitaro got punched into teh sun again when will he ever learn!"
This is exactly how I feel. This is why I can't stand any of the damn characters in Love Hina.

*ahem*

I'm not very picky when it comes to characters, I just can't stand an underdeveloped one. As long as a character doesn't feel like he's just a archetype filler, it'll do me well. There is a cliche I'm really beginning to despise though...

Thus cutesy little bug-eyed girl that does nothing but cry and speak up of "friendship" and "teamwork" and all that just makes the thing feel like a damn pep rally. ie: Phantom Brave's Marona. Yomiko did this one right.

I like characters who are humane, not overly eccentric and bouncing all over the place. For example, one of my favorite characters of all time, Anotsu Kagehisa, the main villian from Blade of the Immortal. At the beginning of the story he comes off simply as the big bad guy who killed the female lead's parents. In most cases it is just left simply at that, but as the story goes on you see how human he really is, how depressing and twisted his past is, and even ends up getting fucked over by the ones who allied him. This great development applies to almost all of the characters from BOTI, and is exactly what makes it such a great maga.

But, of course I'm always up for a good run-of-the-mill badguy. Not one of those that ends up wussing out in the end, nor one thats last words are "I....Impossible!". No, none of that, I like the stone cold evil ones. Lets take another character from BOTI(sorry guys), Shira. You can tell this guy is nuts from the minute you see him. And acts exactly how you'd expect from a guy with a saw edge'd sword. I like his character so much because or just how persistent he is; he gets his hand cut off, so he pulls a Kuseragedou and carves the meat down to 2 jagged bones. He's hanging at the edge of a waterfall, so he doesn't beg for mercy, he just eggs on his opponent. Bad to the bone. I like this. Oh yeah and BOTI, great manga buy now.

I'd write about my simple preferences if they were at all interesting.

[EvilNeil]

Not my absolute favourite - but one that hasn't been mentioned yet, the good-natured, ultra-naive yet powerful fool.

I don't know if it's just because I can identify with them, but I really like these guys. Classic examples are Son Goku ("outer space sure is dark, is it night?"), Rainbow Mika and Tina Armstrong.

I guess I just appreciate their general lack of angst, of 'badassery' or of tired cliched rage/self-doubt/self-loathing, plus the way they're all so happy, one-dimensional and confident.

I think that's why I like the idea of cowgirls so much as well, just this imaginary ideal of someone so strong, simple and friendly really appeals to me.

[EvilNeil]

And seeing as the question is actually 'what makes them memorable', not 'what do you like' - I'll mention a type that sticks in my memory through distaste, not fondness.

See, I'm really growing to dislike the driftless, self-centred, hates-everything slacker type that you get in most games/anime/manga these days. I've been reading GANTZ on and off this past few weeks, and I find Kei, the main character to be an absolutely appalling cunt of the highest order.

And I don't know how much of this is deliberate -- and whether it's so he'll slowly bloom into a noble, thoughtful young man after all he goes through -- and how much of it is just me getting older (see the first few pages of the GANTZ thread where people go on about he awesome he is) but I really can't stand that mumbling, shitty "uuuhhh whatever" self-centred short-sighted fuckery.

As much as I like BERSERK, Guts gets on my nerves as well. "Uuhhhnngngn I hate everything and everyone ever fuck yoouuuuuu".

And don't get me started on the main "character" of VERSUS. >:|

[Jigsaw]

Thong leotards. :)






Might come back later with a more though-out reply when I wasn't just woken up from bright sunshine, still a bit groggy...

[Korigama]

Good: Chun, B.Mary, Julia, Christie, Vanessa, Maki, Jenet, Leona, King
Bad: Ai, Ingrid, Athena, Xiaoyu, Momo, Mignon, Kula, Cham Cham


Tch, one on every site...

*goes back to lurking*

[GEL]

XD This thread made me remember: I have the POLAR OPPOSITE TASTE of all the rest of HerV XD

I mean, you know how every time a new game comes out and got reviewed back when we had the main page, they'd list the new characters and say "Oh yeah, and there's THAT CHARACTER, but I hate THAT CHARACTER so let's move on". Yeah, I always like THAT CHARACTER (i.e. Jun from KOF Howling Blood and Meilin from KOF 2003).

In short, yeah I like joke characters, freaks, ninjas, and little girls ^_^

...which that's probably the 5th time I've said that in this thread XD

[EvilNeil]

I really like that image of Kula in KOF2000, when she transforms to ice mode in the cutscene and she looks like a psychopath. I would much preferred that route, to the one we got (ice loli.)

[Korigama]

Although a psycho route wouldn't have been the case, I'm pretty sure things would have been different if the original SNK were still around until at least KoF '01 in order to salvage the NESTS saga...but of course, everyone has Eolith to thank for the KoF so godawful that many, including SNKP, pretend doesn't even exist.

And aside from that, Mature's crazy enough for me to be content... >_>

[Gavok]

I will never, for the life of me, understand why Dan Hibiki still has fans past 1996.

Zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Actually, while I am tired of the character, I do like how he isn't a complete joke. What I mean is that when you take away the "lol he sucks" gags, you're left with a guy with a decent backstory. Similar deal with guys like Deadpool and Booster Gold.

Though with Booster Gold, they've been going a little overboard on the seriousness level lately, what with his mother, sister, best friend (see sig), two of his closest allies, and his robot sidekick being dead. Poor Skeets ;_;

I also like the sometimes-dumb giants who usually act all friendly and good-natured to children like Potemkin, Hugo, Victor, Chang, current Juggernaut and the like.

In fighting games I usually find myself supporting the hero characters who are good enough that they theoretically COULD be the hero, but get the shaft for whatever reason. Sub-Zero, Sagat, Paul Phoenix (before he became Joe Higashi at least), Kim Kaphwan, Scorpion, Yoshimitsu, etc.

I don't think there's any pattern with the female characters I like. I sure as hell can't think of any similarities between Rainbow Mika and Cassandra Cain Batgirl.

[Cherrn]

As much as I like BERSERK, Guts gets on my nerves as well. "Uuhhhnngngn I hate everything and everyone ever fuck yoouuuuuu".

More like "fuck everything but Casca. And also fuck fate". The awesome thing about Guts is that I understand why he's like that, and I honestly think it's completely justified after what he went through.

But perhaps that's just me. I love bastards for some reason. I love characters who have no redeeming qualities and is just an absolute asshole to everyone around them. Maintaining an aura of absolute superiority doesn't hurt either. I think that's why Seinfeld is one of my favorite comedy shows, because all the characters care about is themselves; it's great.

And I really think the best kind of villain ever is the betrayer. Betraying one's friends and everything they hold dear in order to gain something for themselves is just the ultimate crime. More often than not, they don't get away with it, but when they do, I absolutely love it,

[Frankie Foster]

Overall sexy cuteness with female characters. The more a character can be sexy and cute at the same time, the better. For example: Nanako ^_^

I guess I do kinda like that too, but I actually prefer asskickery (for lack of a better term) over sexy. It just rocks when cute sugary girls prove that they're not completely helpless :D

Of course, being in a decent game/show also helps. Because otherwise, I'll have to pass on girls like Atomic Betty...

Juniper Lee (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/juniperlee/)'s this upcoming show on CN about this girl who apparently fights monsters while being all EMPOWURD and COOL... all while balancing the pressures of teenage life!

Who is/are the creator(s)? Can we kill him/her/it/them?

[Cherrn]

Furthermore, I love rivalries. I really do. I love it when two characters have shared a personal relationship and are just out to kill each other, because it heightens the whole point of fighting in the first place.

And I don't think enough movies create really good villains these days. More often than not, he's just some guy who's evil and therefore must be stopped. I hate that kind of thing. If you want to create a villain, make him the complete antithesis of the main character and just have him do some truly despicable things that personally piss off the hero.

I swear, some day I'm going to make a movie/book where the hero gets screwed sideways by the villain so many times until he's just a mess of a man. The final standoff before the villain wins (because they always should) would go something like:

Hero: "Why'd you do it? What was the whole purpose of it?"

Villain: "Because I could".

[Esco]

Hero: "Why'd you do it? What was the whole purpose of it?"

Villain: "Because I could".
"Caleb, are you making a little tent out of my jacket?"

"I AM NOW."

[Cherrn]

*insert another quote from some pop culture reference that no one will get*

I'M JUST SAYIN :D

[Robbie]

Ah.

Maybe this isn't the best time to tell you that he seems to have landed a cartoon deal. Juniper Lee (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/juniperlee/)'s this upcoming show on CN about this girl who apparently fights monsters while being all EMPOWURD and COOL... all while balancing the pressures of teenage life!


That does sound so cliche... Though this is the guy who wrote Barry Ween, which is a concept done twice over on TV (Dexter and Jimmy Neutron), So I don't really know what to expect.

[shikyoh]

I value the following characteristics and characters posessing most of them are memorable to me in a good way:

+Being a lesbian. Preferably the horny molesting type of lesbian. Utterly hatable character can be saved by making them lesbians. I think Kaorin (Azumanga) is totally adorable but I wonder if I could stand her if she constantly wet her gymshorts over Sakaki-kun instead. Same for Mina of Airmaster.
+Kicking ass. I don't want an indestructable (thus boring) Xena type but shouldn't (excessively) job for the dull and unworthy. I kinda liked Motoko from LH but they made her Keitaro's bitch in her first episode so she sucks, not that she could ever be anything but suck in a series such as LH.
+Being hot. But every female's always at least moderately hot in anime/VGs.

Example: Barnette Orangello from Vandread

Unique WTF types are also memorable, like Bridget. I bet even in your deathbed you'll be telling the nurse "Did you know she is a boy?"

[EvilNeil]

How can you say Xena was indestructible when she died four times?

... wait.

[Rad McAwesome]

Overall I'll prefer an original character type over the typical archetypes. Certain archetypes can be entertaining in and of themselves (the stupid loud guy, the insane woman) but originality is always a plus, and a well-developed character is much more interesting than a onedimensional one. Of course, there's not much room for character development in fighting games, so I'll usually like the character with the most personality the best.

Male:

No angst NO ANGST. Shinji was the worst thing to ever happen to anime because it gave birth to a horrible new archetype: The whiny, useless, angsty kid. Go away. Angst is okay if it's justified but it shouldn't be a main character trait.

I like characters who are cool without being all-powerful. Being able to destroy the world by sneezing doesn't automatically make you cool. The Question from JLU is a good example of this; when it comes to raw power, he's one of the weakest people in the league, but he's awesome because, amongst other things, he'll stand up to people like not-Powergirl and Superman without flinching. That's also why I like Guts. He's pretty much a total asshole, but like Cherrn said it's totally justified, and despite being ludicrously powerful for a regular human he'll always get his ass kicked. It's cooler when the main hero actually has to put some effort into what he does to beat the bad guys.

And lately I've found myself preferring good guys (as in, genuinely friendly, good-hearted heroes) over villains.

As for visual designs, just don't make them overly flamboyant or naked. I seem to have much less of a problem with bishounen in fighting games (Iori <3) than in anime for some reason.

Female:

They should be sarcastic and totally indifferent to everything, have shortish black hair with a green hairband, a green sweater, black pants, be voiced by E.G. Daily and be manager of a thrift store.

Um.

Like DG I also severely dislike the "emancipated woman" archetype. They're just trying way too hard with those, we get it okay, women are just as good as men, stop shoving it in our faces. Screechy "cute" girls must also die.

But I do have this thing for slightly butch girls that could totally kick my ass hard. And scary crazy women.

http://img272.echo.cx/img272/2745/oulan017tm.gif

...That's pretty hot.

[Ari Rockefeller]

- Must have flaws of some kind. Just... believably human.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

[kensyu]

Well I guess the consensus so far is people mostly like unique characters and with good background/story development.

On Archetypes issue I don't see any reason to ban any as long as they can be explained well enough.

On light hearted ones (love hina) well I guess it's meant for people to have fun and not bother with others stuff. Not that I see much memorabvle characters in those things though.

Memorable characters for me and reasons:
Akira (RS)- her design is very unique and the way her personality develops is quite in the middle of sensible to nonsense (weird )

Meia (Vandread)- she's pretty well developed story personality and I like her character a lot

Dr. Jackal(Getbackers )- mild mannered psychopath (only reason to watch the series other than Himiko)

El Hazard (Makoto, Ifurita, Shaylax2) cast - only because the original OVA had really good story =p

Pac-man- his a childhood icon =p more than even mario.

So basically I like unique characters and story too with a dash of sentimentality. =p

[The DG]

Not my absolute favourite - but one that hasn't been mentioned yet, the good-natured, ultra-naive yet powerful fool.

I don't know if it's just because I can identify with them, but I really like these guys. Classic examples are Son Goku ("outer space sure is dark, is it night?"), Rainbow Mika and Tina Armstrong.

You know, for some reason I find I like Goku less and less as Dragonball and Dragonball Z go on, up until the point in the Buu Saga where he's obviously come to terms with being dead and isn't trying to come back anymore (even though he does), at which point I like him best of all.

And can't stand him in GT, but that's because GT pretty much blows.

Tch, one on every site...

I like Kula, but I can't judge her fairly because I've got a soft spot for ice users dating back to the first time I saw Sub-Zero. He and Scorpion were the only reason Mortal Kombat was worth even considering a game to me, and every time the 'ice user' character has shown up since then, like Touya from Yu Yu Hakusho, it's just reinforced the fact that ice is a really great power.

I never liked Iceman, though. To be honest, I thought most of the original X-Men - at least in their original incarnations - were really fucking stupid.

[Minx]

Dying tragically, oh-so underservingly, for no good reason other than to make every *9999* of your Omni-Slash taste like fine wine.

Thinking you're saving princesses in the Mushroom Kingdom while in actuality you're in New York, spaced out on hallucinogens to make the banality of your plumbing job more painless.

Being a shrugging, handwaving, non-mouth-moving low-poly S.T.A.R.S. 'tard.

[Hayabusa]

A tough question. I'd feel inclined to agree with most of what Neil said (especially the happy, angst-free characters being totally awesome and whiny, self centred types sucking ass), all except for the Guts part. Guts is fucking awesome, and easily one of my favourite characters in of all anime and gamedom.

It may be mainly because of his backstory, but I can totally dig how he became like he did. Also, he seems like the kind of guy that's really pretty decent inside, but he can't really interact with anyone in an easygoing manner because it's simply not how he is. I often get the feeling he'd like to be able to integrate with people on a more normal level, but he just can't.

Enough Guts love. Anyway, if they're male - mass violence abilities, genrally of a decent nature, screamingly funny, or just have a pretty cool design and nothing crippling their personality like excessive angst or whatever.

If they're female - strong, happy, angst-free (mainly), doesn't get completely fucking sucked up by the main character and turn into a crawling idiot by his manly charms... hell, there's a lot of things I can find to like in female characters. If they're strong and not emotionally weak, I'm usually pretty happy.

Yuri Hyuga's an all time favourite, as are a few of the Shadow Hearts Characters. Tina, Rachel, Christie, Hitomi, Vanessa, B. Jenet, Blue Mary, Ryu Hayabusa, Kayin, Eiji, Sofia, Tracy, Sho, Angel....

Dammit, I could go on for pages listing the characters I love.

[Onimaru]

Didn't Barry Ween pre-date Jimmy Neutron?

As much as I like BERSERK, Guts gets on my nerves as well. "Uuhhhnngngn I hate everything and everyone ever fuck yoouuuuuu".

And don't get me started on the main "character" of VERSUS. >:|

I think that's a little too general though. Guts is an asshole because...if you can go through what he went, you're either going to end up completely mentally destroyed, yearning for the sweet kiss of oblivion...or, well, you become a complete asshole.

So I guess I'll throw this one in there; I like characters who are bastards. Always arrogant, cocky, self centered S.O.Bs who are sometimes hillariously over-powered. They MIGHT have some redeeming goodness in their character that usually surfaces in the company of their close comrades, but most of the time they're just making hillarious jokes at others expense. And they have to be unapologetic. Example: Hiko Seijuro, Mamoru Takamura, Saotome Ranma (if you think about it), Heihachi Mishima, Vegeta (for the most part).

If pre-suit Darth Vader had been a sarcastic asshole instead of a lumbering angst machine, Revenge of the Sith would probably be my favorite Star Wars movie

[Destroyman]

And seeing as the question is actually 'what makes them memorable', not 'what do you like' - I'll mention a type that sticks in my memory through distaste, not fondness.

See, I'm really growing to dislike the driftless, self-centred, hates-everything slacker type that you get in most games/anime/manga these days. I've been reading GANTZ on and off this past few weeks, and I find Kei, the main character to be an absolutely appalling cunt of the highest order.

And I don't know how much of this is deliberate -- and whether it's so he'll slowly bloom into a noble, thoughtful young man after all he goes through -- and how much of it is just me getting older (see the first few pages of the GANTZ thread where people go on about he awesome he is) but I really can't stand that mumbling, shitty "uuuhhh whatever" self-centred short-sighted fuckery.

As much as I like BERSERK, Guts gets on my nerves as well. "Uuhhhnngngn I hate everything and everyone ever fuck yoouuuuuu".

And don't get me started on the main "character" of VERSUS. >:|

Kei: You should drop GANTZ then. I think Kei's character is not going to go nowhere heroic past ( if you haven't read Buddha or Tae Kojima missions yet, beware of this spoiler ) protecting his girlfreind Tae ( in vain ) and then wanting to revive her, Kato and Kishimoto after a few missions that went haywire. Now GANTZ has been seen to take down on japanese stereotypes and the overall way of life there. I've read an interview from the person who is behind the anime ( name escapes me, the interview is somewhere on a NewType mag ), and despite him not being Oku Hiroya himself, when he says he focuses on how messed up the living look around the aliens, how it actually looks like everything normal yet fucked up social life, I think he nails it. And Kei, he is a dick, and he was going to eventually become part of this fucked up normality by only looking after himself. Now after this comes and he has his time with Tae, he changes. You can't really expect a majestic heroic figure immdiatly, b/c this would take time.

Gutts: It's funny that you mention both Kei and Gutts, b/c despite several differences, I think GANTZ and Berserk are the same only on a different setting. They go into overall awfullness in people. You should drop this one aswell if you're anything like Racey. Now have you read the Berserk manga? B/c it goes deep into what make Gutts a dick. He was found underneath his dead mother and left to die, pimped and raped by the fosterfather he tried to impress for the most part of his childhood, the love of his life got turned into a retard by the man he followed for most his adult life and considered his equal only to betray him and curse him to fight an army of the dead, and at the rate that it goes, it'll be forever.

And if you're not a dick after the feast and getting branded, if Gutts isn't the person he is for the madness that is his life, then you are a freightning individual.

Versus: LOL, I don't know. Are you serious? I'll need to see this movie again to have a proper thought. I think the main character is sort of mockery. Is there really something to hate from him? Other than being upstagged by the zombie-slaying yakuza? B/c really, they sold the movie to me.

Now here's the thing, these character are what they are for those reasons, but I think the problem here is the fandom they receive. Kei and Gutts are not changing, this is one of the things that made the series of each so succesful and some mangaka ain't willing to answer a few complains if everything goes this well. I think that some of this fandom is what you people are really complaining. A place like this, people like you, obviously being against angst, you would be more annoyed by fagmortimers impersonating people like this, or Squall, or any other Final Fantasy bloke that is not in 9. Or someone along those lines. Over the net, where it's annoying.

I love these series ( and FF8 ) very much, and here I'd say this in their defense. But I can tell you what I think is so annoying of them. It's not them, it's what they breed.

[Robbie]

And don't get me started on the main "character" of VERSUS. >:|

Versus' main character is so cool he goes right into parody, that's all I can say. He's shockingly unflappable and cool in most things he does, not like the other guys in the film, who are mostly maniacs.

But the yakuza are more entertaining than him, that's one thing for sure.

[Shiguru]

I'm tired of characters that follow a particular gimmick with nothing to really seperate them that's worthwhile. Characters that rely on "not-killing" make me shake my head in shame for watching/reading this medium. Same goes for characters who rely on angst. Shinji is an exception because he was one of the first, and was created by a really fucked up individual.

I like characters who are original or have something to set them apart from the rest. A normal additude helps a lot to. Relating to characters is one thing that makes me like them. Make them human or give me a reason to like them. I could give a fuck less about Superman if it wasn't that he embodied the american myth...er, dream and helped those in need.

But I'm tired of Superman wannabe's as well.

Manji (Blade of the Immortal) is a character I enjoy. He's lazy, one of the best swordsmen in feudal Japan, is immortal, but is a total asshole and loves it. Might not sound like much, because it isn't. But what makes him fun to me is his interactions with other characters. On his own, he's not that memorable, but when thrown in with other bad-ass characters, he becomes 10x cooler.

As for villans, I like villans who are totally evil, but follow a code of sorts. Vader is one of the best villans of all time, and while a total bastard, he followed a code of honor. He would face warriors he deemed worthy in combat himself. He would reward those who served him well, but fuck up and you die. He also has many flaws. ranging from redemption to a lack of progress. He cannot overthrow the Emporer, yet, he's much stronger than Palpatine.

Few characters are as complete and work from diffrent perspectives as Vader, which is one reason I fell in love with the design and such.

[EvilNeil]

Versus' main character is so cool he goes right into parody, that's all I can say. He's shockingly unflappable and cool in most things he does, not like the other guys in the film, who are mostly maniacs.
If he was meant as a parody, then my previously-low estimation of the film rises a little. Taking him as a serious attempt at a 'cool' character on the other hand - I tell you there wasn't a second of his screentime I wasn't praying for his death.
Kei: You should drop GANTZ then.
I don't know - Kei aside I've kind of enjoyed it so far. It's shallow and repetitive with a moron for a main character, but it's still brilliantly imaginative and truly bizarre, and I have to admit I am intrigued by the whole ordeal. And it has exploding monsters and guns and boobs as well. Besides, it's not like I'm paying for it or anything.

Berserk on the other hand I am paying for, but again there's enough awesomeness in that; the ludicrous fights, huge, slobbering monsters and the Giger/Hellraiser-esque freakiness of the Godhand to keep me more than entertained.

I just can't bring myself to care in the slightest about such single-minded, nihilistic faggot characters.

[Hayabusa]

Shinji is no exception. He's the example.

And yes, I was rather unimpressed with the main character of Versus. The guy who says he can dodge bullets, however...

I can't see much of a connection between Guts and Kei, come to think of it. Kei's a shit character, and Guts is awesome.

[Shiguru]

He did kind of start a huge trend though. And none of the other characters imitating him have made NEARLY as much money as Shinji's character did. Serously, that show is huge to this day... though it does have a lot to do with Rei and Asuka....

[Hayabusa]

It didn't stop him being a whining fag. Shinji is simply one of my most despised character types ever.

I'll try my best not to badmouth anyone else from this point on, though.

[Rad McAwesome]

He did kind of start a huge trend though.

And that's exactly why I hate him so much.

[EvilNeil]

In case anyone is wondering how someone can be anti-angst, yet pro-Evangelion as I am, I'll say that as far as I'm concerned, EVA doesn't want you to like its characters, or sympathise with its characters - in fact it seems to me that it actively tries to make many of them as unlikeable as possible; the series as self-destructive as its protagonist -- seemingly for the express purpose of allowing the viewer to revel in and enjoy their eventual despair and destruction.

Except Ritsuko, of course. ;_;

[Hayabusa]

In case anyone is wondering how someone can be anti-angst, yet pro-Evangelion as I am, I'll say that as far as I'm concerned, EVA doesn't want you to like its characters, or sympathise with its characters - in fact it seems to me that it actively tries to make many of them as unlikeable as possible; the series as self-destructive as its protagonist -- seemingly for the express purpose of allowing the viewer to revel in and enjoy their eventual despair and destruction.

Except Ritsuko, of course. ;_;
I never thought of Evangelion that way. It still doesn't change much for me though. Any time I see Shinji it makes me want to puke, and Rei's insane popularity at the time Eva was at its peak baffled me. While I don't completely hate her or anything, I fail to see anything remotely interesting in her.

Emotionless types, or overly submissive/apologetic types don't interest me.

[Onimaru]

I don't really read Berserk consistently (apart from the domestic Dark Horse releases) but isn't Guts supposed to have lightened up (slightly) now that he's got his little Gutsketeer squad? At least compared to how he is immediately after the Eclipse.

Another thing that makes me prickly about Guts being compared to the likes of Shinji (RRRGGHH) is that, on top of having a wholly justified chip on his shoulder, Guts is motivated. He wants to kill Griffith and put an end to his world (national?) domination plot, and if he can, restore Casca somehow. Hell, if possible he probably wants to live happily ever after with Casca, with Schierke and Isidro as their surrogate kids. It's just...given the way things tend to happen in the world of Berserk...it's a pretty unlikely outcome

[Hayabusa]

Yeah, he's still totally violent, but he's a much nicer guy now.

Okay, commenting on how much I hate certain characters is now officially over. Now!

[Dick Nation]

In case anyone is wondering how someone can be anti-angst, yet pro-Evangelion as I am, I'll say that as far as I'm concerned, EVA doesn't want you to like its characters, or sympathise with its characters - in fact it seems to me that it actively tries to make many of them as unlikeable as possible; the series as self-destructive as its protagonist -- seemingly for the express purpose of allowing the viewer to revel in and enjoy their eventual despair and destruction.

The entire notion of REVELING in someone's despair and destruction, animated character or not is really rather disgusting.

This is perhaps a great reason I hate that show.

[EvilNeil]

I never thought of Evangelion that way. It still doesn't change much for me though.
It's like, Beserk goes:

"Hey look, our main guy is moody and miserable and hates everything, isn't he KEWL?"

while EVA says:

"Hey look, our main guy is moody and miserable and hates everything, isn't he a FUCKING FAGGOT? Hey, let's torture the shit out of him for the entire series!"

And for me, the Joy of Rei (tm) comes with the gradual realisation and dawning humanity within the character as the series progresses. Going from Rei I, to II, to III, each time with more and more cracks in her cold, impersonal shell, sharing her discoveries and humanity - is probably the only positive, joyful thing the series has to offer.

[Cherrn]

Berserk on the other hand I am paying for, but again there's enough awesomeness in that; the ludicrous fights, huge, slobbering monsters and the Giger/Hellraiser-esque freakiness of the Godhand to keep me more than entertained.

I just can't bring myself to care in the slightest about such single-minded, nihilistic faggot characters.

Ahh, so you're only a 5-6 volumes in? Because Guts basically is a one-dimensional faggot up until vol. 10 or so.

[Destroyman]

If he was meant as a parody, then my previously-low estimation of the film rises a little. Taking him as a serious attempt at a 'cool' character on the other hand - I tell you there wasn't a second of his screentime I wasn't praying for his death.

So you where being serious? :O

...

I think Ryuhei Kitamura was being serious aswell. :(

But yeah, yakuza fighting zombies, fun times.

I don't know - Kei aside I've kind of enjoyed it so far. It's shallow and repetitive with a moron for a main character, but it's still brilliantly imaginative and truly bizarre, and I have to admit I am intrigued by the whole ordeal. And it has exploding monsters and guns and boobs as well. Besides, it's not like I'm paying for it or anything.

Berserk on the other hand I am paying for, but again there's enough awesomeness in that; the ludicrous fights, huge, slobbering monsters and the Giger/Hellraiser-esque freakiness of the Godhand to keep me more than entertained.

I just can't bring myself to care in the slightest about such single-minded, nihilistic faggot characters.

I can understand this perfectly. They are both really excellent. As for Kei and Gutts, I think it'll just take time for you to get used to them and their shit. Just be wary about it, b/c there won't be any quick development ( maybe you'll notice some on Kei, since Berserk moves at a real slow pace, atleast for me b/c I'm paying for it too, no torrent to go through all the shit now, and from what I've heard, Gutts is still the harder dick ).

EDIT: Fuck, I am slow.

[Hayabusa]

It's like, Beserk goes:

"Hey look, our main guy is moody and miserable and hates everything, isn't he KEWL?"

while EVA says:

"Hey look, our main guy is moody and miserable and hates everything, isn't he a FUCKING FAGGOT? Hey, let's torture the shit out of him for the entire series!"

And for me, the Joy of Rei (tm) comes with the gradual realisation and dawning humanity within the character as the series progresses. Going from Rei I, to II, to III, each time with more and more cracks in her cold, impersonal shell, sharing her discoveries and humanity - is probably the only positive, joyful thing the series has to offer.
Oh yes, she smiled in one episode, didn't she? That Shinji description you mentioned made me laugh, but I'd still rather put pins in my eyes than ever see him again, even if he gets tortured by a master torturer for five whole seasons.

How much of Berserk have you seen, anyway? Guts is pretty deep, I thought - but I'm conductive to violent characters. He seems shallow, but it's all in his backstory and how he adapts to the pretty shitty lifestyle he'd been handed. I'm impressed with the guy.

Then again, I watched the whole anime in a day, so his character development for me was rather on the rapid side - it also skips the first few volumes of the manga, where he's just walking around killing things and letting innocent people die.

[Cherrn]

Wait, are you watching the anime or reading the manga?

Neil, you never tell us what you like anymore :(

[Hayabusa]

Can't blame him. I rarely tell people what I like online myself. It's not so bad here unless RegalSin's browsing the forum, but on a lot of boards you get called a steaming faggot for saying you like oxygen.

'O no, Tat IZ teh GAY!!! YOO FUKKA!!!!!!1!'

[EvilNeil]

I must be the only one in the world who breathes carbon dioxide.

I'm reading the manga. I've been tempted by the lures of the anime on several occaisions, but seeing as I'm partway through the other, it seems weird to start watching it now.
Oh yes, she smiled in one episode, didn't she?.
She did. Which for Rei I was a pretty amazing event. By the third character she's kickin' rad and awesome. Personally I didn't really get a handle on the whole multiple-character thing until my second viewing (cursed EVA with its throwaway line plot points) - but it does make it a lot more rewarding, tracing her development until the very end, in EOE, with her ultimate sacrifice a selfless excercise in pure free will - as far away from the soulless android we meet initially as you can get.
Ahh, so you're only a 5-6 volumes in? Because Guts basically is a one-dimensional faggot up until vol. 10 or so.
Yes, you're quite right I should have said sooner. I just assumed that was how it was all the way through, seeing as I never saw any "fuck Berserk for turning Guts into a tree-hugging hippy!" posts anywhere.

And to be fair, he's not totally, black and heartless all the time, just 99.9999% of it. In some ways that makes him like Rei - a single personality with just the tiniest cracks showing through - rewards for the fan hoping to see a different side to their characters.

[Kenji]

Memorable, eh?

4daMENS:
- Don't be a wallflower. Honestly, this was more than half of my problem with FFVIII, and ALL of my problem with shoujo/datesim games (:bigtran:). Have SOMETHING that makes you stick out, even lack of backbone and complete conviction/simultaneous dependency on mankind (see also: Shinji Ikari).

- I should only be contemplating turning teh ghey if you're personality is so awesome that I'm struck helpless and stupified (Kyou Sohma, Duo Maxwell). Girly looks Do Not Count (Fushigi Yuugi).

- Angst is good. GROWING from the angst (or, like Shinji, sumbitting completely to it) is ALWAYS better (Van Fanel, Trunks).

- You can never fail with comedy.

- You can never fail with being badass (Shining Force's Cain, Kagato, Sephiroth, Iori Yagami, Gendo Ikari, Piccolo, Tuxedo Kamen--YEAH, YOU HEARD ME, BITCHES.).

- There is no way to fail with being a comedic badass (DARK FUCKING SCHNEIDER, Kefka).

- You're a member of the Ranma 1/2 cast that is not Akane.

- You are Xelloss.

- You act (and somewhat look) like GEL (see at your own risk: Kimi wa Peto/Tramps Like Us).

Honorable Mentions: Locke Cole, Justin, X, Zero, Spider, Folken Fanel, Zidane Tribal, Ferio, Shigure Sohma.

4daLADIES:
- Independent like a mofo. Seriously, they don't NEED them menfolk to do what they want (Lina Inverse, Threads of Fate's Mint, Kid, Hitomi Kanzaki, Prier, Hibana, Lucia, Ai Amano, Karin Aoi).

- Being cheerful doesn't hurt (Mahoro, Tohru Honda, Shinobu Maehara, Usagi Tsukino, Hinata Wakaba).

- Imposing figures are a plus (Zaki, Vice, Leona, Asuka Soryuu).

- Blue Hair (Luna, Lucia, Ami Mizuno, Leona, Shinobu, Shining Force 2's Sarah).

- Total geek in some outsponding way (Yuna, Hououji Fuu).

- You're a member of the Ranma 1/2 cast that is not Akane.

Honorable Mentions: (Lunar: EB's Jean, Orhla, Shining Force's Tao, Rikku, Yohko Mano, Aeris, Garnet/Dagger, Cinammon, Marino, Roll, Tron, Mistress Yuna, Mistress Sera

And Megaman Legends has the greatest cast of characters you never met.
I was gonna let this go, but then I thought of something better. ;)

Meia (Vandread)- she's pretty well developed story personality and I like her character a lot
That's a lie and you know it. :/

Ritsuko's brunette.

[EvilNeil]

How much of Berserk have you seen, anyway? Guts is pretty deep, I thought - but I'm conductive to violent characters. He seems shallow, but it's all in his backstory and how he adapts to the pretty shitty lifestyle he'd been handed. I'm impressed with the guy.
See, I don't really understand how that's 'deep', in any sense of the word. He's mean because people were mean to him. The End.

He has lots of backstory, yes (admittedly some of which I'm yet to see) - but IMO that doesn't necessarily = depth. Am I missing something?

[Cherrn]

I hope Robo Shego didn't spoil the entire thing for you :S

But anyway, Guts is a surprisingly deep character. I mean, he gets much more development than the average badass like Alucard. He won't turn from his cynical, world-weary persona, but he will grow many different facets over the course of the story and you'll come to understand him so well because of the way that the manga basically tells you everything that's going on in his mind.

You become attached. I know I have.

Edit: And yes, you are missing something, Neil. About 20 volumes :D

[EvilNeil]

I hope Robo Shego didn't spoil the entire thing for you :S

No, I don't bother reading his posts anyway. :smalltran
Ritsuko's brunette.
That's freedom-hating commie propaganda and you know it.

And I really wish I could refute that "Trunks = angsty" line, but there's no escaping the fact that as far as his future incarnation goes, he's 5% awesome saviour of earth, and 95% fight-commentating whiner.

Such a shame, as he has one of the best character introductions I've ever seen. It promised so much, and delivered so little.

[Gavok]

If written well, prep-time characters = awesome.

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[Kenji]

Submit, commrade. :smalltran

I don't hold it against him like I do other angsters (Squall, being the most infamous of mind), because a lot of it is really less his fault, and more of the plot point that dictates depending on Goku to win any battle. Honestly, I feel in love with him from first site (literally, just an image shot, so many moons ago), but seeing him in action just made him instantly better for me. He did his damndest to prevent the source of his anguish from coming to past, beefing up to an unbelivably high fighting level (and sadly losing on a speed technicality).

DBZ has a lot of character showmanship potential. Movie 8 proves this alone (whilst completely putting home the fact that Goku Must Win at the same time, sadly).

Gavok: Needs more David Xanatos.

[Rad McAwesome]

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I still fondly remember Morrison's Batman from his first JLA arc (okay I read it half a year ago so sue me) where the JLA fought the White Martians. Every member of the league took out exactly one of them, and Wally and Kyle even teamed up to beat one (although Wally easily beat one before).

So how many did Batman take out?

Four. And it was totally believable too.

That was an awesome Batman.

[Hayabusa]

He has lots of backstory, yes (admittedly some of which I'm yet to see) - but IMO that doesn't necessarily = depth. Am I missing something?
Yes.

[Gavok]

That was an awesome Batman.

So just making sure, those who are able to make Batman really awesome: Morrison, Dini/Timm, Waid and Giffen. The rest = the asshole in my sig.

I'm on the fence about Miller's Batman. Not sure where he falls.

[Rad McAwesome]

So just making sure, those who are able to make Batman really awesome: Morrison, Dini/Timm, Waid and Giffen. The rest = the asshole in my sig.

And Moore, judging by only Batman-related thing he ever wrote, Denny O'Neil, and most of the writers from Batman: Black and White. And that guy who wrote Leatherwing.

[Onimaru]

He did his damndest to prevent the source of his anguish from coming to past, beefing up to an unbelivably high fighting level (and sadly losing on a speed technicality).


...that's like saying Kennedy was killed due to "bullet interference"

[GEL]

I guess I do kinda like that too, but I actually prefer asskickery (for lack of a better term) over sexy. It just rocks when cute sugary girls prove that they're not completely helpless :D
XD I agree, though I file that under absurdity. Absurdity rocks!

I mean, I'd really like to see a character like Puni Puni Poemi done "seriously". A cute adorable girl (who grows boobs for no reason) in a frilly outfit, KICKING ASS!

...actually, screw the frilly outfits. I demand short shorts!

Quite frankly what we really need is more magical girls in fighting games. Like Clara from the Power Instinct series (Groove On Fight incarnation was teh 1337est), or Pollin. Pollin fucking rocks!

[Kenji]

The context I was thinking of was that the writters HAD to hype the upcoming Gohan fight somehow, and it was an added plus, as opposed to Cell outright beating Trunks to death, which would have made much less sense.

[Destroyman]

No, I don't bother reading his posts anyway. :smalltran



They are unreadable shit. I have to delete them myself on a few occasions. I actually did that in this very thread.

[bonertown]

See, I don't really understand how that's 'deep', in any sense of the word. He's mean because people were mean to him. The End.

He has lots of backstory, yes (admittedly some of which I'm yet to see) - but IMO that doesn't necessarily = depth. Am I missing something?

Guts certainly has some depth. Thing is, you have to be patient, because Kentaro Miura likes to take his time with some things, and builds things up slowly. But there's never a wasted moment - every scene, every panel is important. Yes, even the demon Guts humps in the first pages of Volume 1.

Guts simply observes (at least in the Golden Age arc, the one you're currently on), and all you get from him at most is a few reaction shots. In Volume 6, though, you start to get an idea of what the real Guts is like, and by the next volume, you start to see what Guts is really made of, and what's going on in his head.

As for being an asshole in Volumes 1-3, that gets explained in Volume 16, and that will play a huge role in later chapters.

[Ultimate Jesus]

And Moore, judging by only Batman-related thing he ever wrote
He's written a few things with Batman in them, Swamp Thing, the Killing Joke (which is an actual Batman story), and that Superman story, for the Man who has Everything, or whatever that story with Mongul and that funny symbiotic plant thing was called. You know, the one that got made into an episode of Justice League, or something.
Or, did you mean another Moore?
I'm on the fence about Miller's Batman. Not sure where he falls.
Is this because you liked how he wrote Batman in some things, but not others?
Because I've got to say, I still fucking LOVE Batman in the Dark Knight Returns.

[Rad McAwesome]

He's written a few things with Batman in them, Swamp Thing, the Killing Joke (which is an actual Batman story), and that Superman story, for the Man who has Everything, or whatever that story with Mongul and that funny symbiotic plant thing was called. You know, the one that got made into an episode of Justice League, or something.

The Killing Joke is what I was talking about. Guest appearances don't really count, and in For the Man who has Everything he was pretty useless. Although not as useless as in Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, where he attempts to break his way through a forcefield that Superman and Captain Marvel can't punch through... with a stick.

[Ultimate Jesus]

ah, OK.
Though, I honestly can't remember Batman saying or doing anything interesting in the Killing Joke.
I didn't like the Killing Joke in fact.

[Rad McAwesome]

It's not so much the fact that Batman does anything awesome in it as it is an analysis of the character. Basically, it shows that Batman and the Joker are in fact pretty similar, like two sides of the same coin (they're both lunatics, but they each cope with it in different ways). That last page of Batman and the Joker laughing in the rain becomes really chilling that way.

Funny thing is, Moore hates The Killing Joke himself.

[Ultimate Jesus]

Yeah, I read that in this interview (http://www.blather.net/articles/amoore/brought_to_light1.html).

[The DG]

I only really liked Trunks in one of the movies. You know, the one where one-armed Gohan goes after 17 and 18 in Trunks's home timeline and all. He was still kind of dorky, but he gave a great haircut with that sword of his.

(Though, why anyone would need a sword when they can punch a hole in a planet is really beyond me.)

[Kenji]

... I never gave too much thought to that. As I said, the only thing I knew about him before was that he was excessively cooler than the others, and the sword just fit the persona I had in my mind. Can't even call it overcompensation, considering who he is, what he is, and WHO he came from.

[Soul Blader]

I like female characters who are very strong and/or good at what they do but (see above) aren't unnecessarily serious about it
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These women are awesome, well at least in my eyes.


I like Iria because shes very tough, resorceful, fearless, good at what she does and takes crap from nobody. At the same time shes knows she still a little girl at heart. She reflects upon her life and learns from her mistakes. These are the same reasons why I like heroines such Alita, and Meryl. I like characters whose weaknesses feed into their strengths.

Like Gel I also like women who shouldnt be hot but are freaking attractive to me. Baiken is a good example. The artist said he based her design from Kenshin but I see her more as a female Manji. I like insane sword weilding chicks such as Janne and Charlotte. Man I suck hard at Samurai Showdown games:(



I also like retro style characters like Strider

I like Strider Hiryu. He's very simple but also original when it comes to ninja designs. Hes not the traditional ninja. He's cool, calm, very elegant but hes also a badass straight foward killing machine who doesnt really rely too much on stealth. His games have this James Bond, Star Wars, 80's cartoon vibe to them. He's part of a secrect worldwide spy organization, encounters hot female assassins who are trying to kill him, has cool powers, has a cool energy blade, and fights Russians. Whenever I see his robotic animal buddies I instantly think of Voltron, Silver Hawks or Thundercats. He also fights a pirate and a Sith Lord lol. I also like how in the manga it shows how he has a high regard for life (he spares those Zain rejects, loves animals, also feels sadness whenever he kills off a rival Strider) even though he's a walking death machine. Like Kenshiro or the Punisher, Hiryu only goes on a one man killing spree when necessary.

Piccolo's cool. Even though angstsy hes actually one of the most developed characters in DBZ despite his plot holes. He went through alot changes. He went from a badass villian to a totally badass hero. He seems like a pretty angstful character at first but hes actually just very shy. Unlike Vegeta, he's very calm, and doesnt let his temper get to him. Hes also great father figure, Hell he was a better parent figure to Gohan than Goku and that controlling bitch Chi Chi ever were. Its also very cool to see Piccolo and Goku kickass together. Funny how two characters who are so different from each other are also very much alike. That episode where Piccolo and Goku where are taking driving lessons was hillarious because you never expected those two characters to be in that situation.

I like badass villians such as Geese Howard, Ra's al Ghul, The Shredder, and Mr. Big. Very charismatic, not afraid to risk anyting, can't stay dead, very skilled in combat but dont need godly powers( I talking to all you NEST freaks) to kick ass. Despite being human they still leave an aura of mass terror and respect even when they're dead.

I like cool laid back badasses such as Spike, Manji, Muegen, Jubei (Ninja Scroll), and Haohmaru.

I also like badass characters who are so weird and bizzare in design. Im talking about aliens like the Predators, Yoshimitsu, Elipson from Alien Soldier, Captain Commando and his crew, or any those weird alien ninja creatures that Kieta Amemiya designs.

[GEL]

I totally fucking second Iria and Cutey Honey (I don't know the other 2 XD).

There's something incredibly loveable about the character of Cutey Honey. RE: Cutey Honey being one of the most awesome things I've seen in awhile.

Ditto on Iria. Zeram was one of the only movies I would really call a "Live Action Anime". I fucking loved it.

On that note though, the character of Zeram in that movie rocked. Just that one scene, when he tried to use the DNA from the useless guys to make a monster, made me laugh so fucking hard! XD Seeing a big badass monster thing that everyone is trying to kill *facepalm* and *shakehead* is absolutely wonderful.

[Vic Viper]

OK, maybe I'll post my favorite fighting game characters and why. Mainly, its the quickest and ease of use for me.

Male Character:

M.Bison (the SF2/CvS2 version, or "thin" Bison): Well I know Alpha or "fat" Bison is more powerful, but I perfer this one. Mainly cause this version of Bison seems more versatile and faster. The CvS2 version of him seems better (not just because of "paint the fence"): still versatile, and also has Alpha Bison's teleport. The price for speed and higher jump was that he's weaker.

Female Character:

Nanase (SFEX series): From what I hear, she was very good on EX2, but not so good on EX3. But I still like the EX3 version of her. Her EX3 version is just sexy looking.

[Gavok]

Is this because you liked how he wrote Batman in some things, but not others?
Because I've got to say, I still fucking LOVE Batman in the Dark Knight Returns.

Yeah, but then there's Dark Knight Strikes Again. The dialogue at the end with Dick Grayson made him seem like a gigantic cock and more in the wrong than he would ever admit.

[Racewing]

Quite frankly what we really need is more magical girls in fighting games. Like Clara from the Power Instinct series (Groove On Fight incarnation was teh 1337est), or Pollin. Pollin fucking rocks!
Pollin, as in Bolon and Polin, ffrom Tech Romancer?

If so, then yep, I'll have to agree there.

Exception to the rule, though. I'm usually in Esco's camp regarding perky magical girls in fighters (kill 'em all)--but SHIT, man. Combining magic with GIANT ROBOT? WIN.

Man, now I wanna find my Tech Romancer disc, pop it in my DC, and watch Pollin make a big-ass robot out of fucking JUNK and HOUSES again.

(Ahh, TR... another game Capcom needs to bring back. I think I just found my next Graveyard review for HGM. (Adds another lemon to queue))

[GEL]

Pollin, as in Bolon and Polin, ffrom Tech Romancer?

If so, then yep, I'll have to agree there.

Exception to the rule, though. I'm usually in Esco's camp regarding perky magical girls in fighters (kill 'em all)--but SHIT, man. Combining magic with GIANT ROBOT? WIN.

Man, now I wanna find my Tech Romancer disc, pop it in my DC, and watch Pollin make a big-ass robot out of fucking JUNK and HOUSES again.

(Ahh, TR... another game Capcom needs to bring back. I think I just found my next Graveyard review for HGM. (Adds another lemon to queue))
XD Yes! I imported that shit and played the hell out of it, then I got the U.S. version and played the hell out of it!

Me and one of my freinds routinely sing the opening theme. It's easily my favorite 3D Capcom Fighter.

...and Pollin's teen form is fucking amazingly hot! I have a folder devoted to her, but there's only so much teen Pollin art out there sadly. Her story mode fucking rocked!

[VeggieH8R]

Back on Berserk, I never thought of Guts as an asshole or even mean. I just figured he was a product of his life and times. It's not that he doesn't like anyone, it's the world that doesn't like him (whole "curse" thing). He lives in a time of unending wars and with that he became used to death and is unfazed by killing everything in mile radius (only reason it seems to bother anyone is because he's the best at it). However i noticed he seems to go out of his way to avoid unnecessary deaths due to misunderstandings. Like when he first meets the Holy Knights he was willing not to make a mess and simply defend but when one of them cut him he killed five of them without batting an eye. It's all about survival to him, he's not actively looking to kill stuff (except for Griffith and his flunkies). Somewhere earlier in this thread someone made a comparison to Shinji. Well Shinji never dealt with his problems like a man and look what happened. His series sucked ass.

I'd also like to add Leona Ozaki to the kickass women list. Throw the Puma sisters in there too.

[Shiguru]

I'm on the fence about Miller's Batman. Not sure where he falls.

Did you like Rucka's version of Bats?

I liked Miller's Year One Batman. I liked how he wouldn't just knock you out, but he would fuck you up and made you wish he didn't have the non-killing oath. Year One didn't have him being a detective, but it showed us his character and his interactions/impacts on Gordon and others. I liked it better than the totally paranoid and insane (yet totally awesome) Batman in DKR. I just like how violent and downright scary (when he needs to be) Miller's Batman is.

And Loeb is great, or would be if he could write a story that didn't involve 3 billion villans and focused on one good one. And his writing works better with Tim Sale's Noir style as opposed to Jim Lee's "look at me, I can draw some damn good posters, but can't tell a story" action style.

[Kenji]

...and Pollin's teen form is fucking amazingly hot! I have a folder devoted to her, but there's only so much teen Pollin art out there sadly. Her story mode fucking rocked!
Of course, we need proof of this hotness. Poste haste.

[kensyu]

That's a lie and you know it. :/

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Actually most the Vandread cast have good backstories, Meia and Gasco specifically. And the others except for Jura (among the main ones) have very good psychological frameworks. =p

On Gutts I hear he is becoming better and better and according to an interview of the creator he's aiming for a good ending and also to make Gutts more human as things get along =p

[GEL]

Of course, we need proof of this hotness. Poste haste.
Coming right up sir!
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Kid Pollin

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Teen Pollin ^____________________^

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Design Sketch

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Shots from the unlockable Anime opening (Pollin gets about 3 seconds of screen time)

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Teen Pollin's Story Mode Face Portrait (used only once)

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Teen Pollin Hero Mode image

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Big&Little Pollin and the Bolon

and last buy not least, my favorite...
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Pollin and Kei fighting over the main character! (You could almost call her story mode "Love Hina/Tenchi on acid with giant robots")

[Ultimate Jesus]

Yeah, but then there's Dark Knight Strikes Again. The dialogue at the end with Dick Grayson made him seem like a gigantic cock and more in the wrong than he would ever admit.
On the whole, I didn't like the Dark Knight Strikes Again's Batman dialogue. It didn't sound much like how I imagine Batman speaking, (did he say "dumb ass"? I can't remember, but I don't think I could ever imagine Batman saying that).

I liked it better than the totally paranoid and insane (yet totally awesome) Batman in DKR
I can't recall anything in the Dark Knight Returns that made Batman seem paranoid.
Could you give me an example.

[Shiguru]

Well anyone who builds a frekin tank as a batmobile before he retired is pretty paranoid. What possible purpose would a monstrosity like that serve. Admittedly, I haven't read the tale in over a year, so I can't cite examples...

... oh shit, there go my cool points.

[Rad McAwesome]

http://hoatzin.dotfrag.nl/emot-flashfact.gif DKR Batman modified the Batmobile into an armoured assault vehicle after some riots many years ago. http://hoatzin.dotfrag.nl/emot-flashfact.gif

Yeah, I read that in this interview (http://www.blather.net/articles/amoore/brought_to_light1.html).

He also said it in his radio interview for the BBC... That's where he also said "But, in retrospect, comparing it to some of the Batman stories that came afterwards it was, in fact, a masterpiece.", which is true. :)

[Frankie Foster]

You could almost call her story mode "Love Hina/Tenchi on acid with giant robots"

And let's not forget:

Goldibus: Pollin, I am your father. Or mother, I forget which...

[Mr. Rottweiler]

Heroes rarely appeal to me. For most series, I'm watching and waiting to see the bad guy. Because usually (although this will probably be debated), the villains are the most memorable characters, although villains, rivals, antiheroes, take your pick. They have the better lines. They perform the meaner or cooler acts. They dress better. But the best always know how to hit the real nerves.

Faggotry follows Sephiroth everywhere he goes, but you have to admit that driving a sword as long as you are tall through a praying flower girl's back in front of the man who's falling in love with her when you previously wiped out his hometown is +100 asshole points. The Joker's flashback in Batman Beyond: Return Of The Joker where he shows the "home movie"of torturing Robin then mocking Batman was sheer heartless bastardry, as evident by Batman's following assault. Anderson of Hellsing's arrogance seemingly spawns from his faith, but his laugh and manic grin made him seem more monstrous than the filth he kills sometimes.

All in all, I'm a sucker for the darker style of character, but the most memorable kind of character is the stupid character. The ones who's quotes you see in sigs or popping up on ytmnd or /b/ for months after. The kind that someone will say "Haha, you just pulled a (insert name here)!" when someone makes a mistake.

Oh, and hot chicks in hot clothing.

[VeggieH8R]

Did Anderson ever appear again after his initial fight with Akkard? Maybe only in the manga?

[Kenji]

Kensyu: Yes, they have great backstories. No, those backstories were not executed/displayed to optimal effect. But then, Vandread's a pretty picky topic with me, so I'll be quiet, now.

And it's Gasconge. :smalltran

GEL: I approve. This game be on the Dreamcast, you say? I'll google up some more info. Looks interesting, and I do need something to take the edge off my mech fix, now that I've given up on Armored Core.

[Mr. Rottweiler]

Did Anderson ever appear again after his initial fight with Akkard? Maybe only in the manga?
He does in both. After his first fight with Alucard, he appears again and has a scrap with Alucard in the underground trains, which includes an awesome scene of his running along a carriage scraping his knives alonge the roof and ceiling. His other appearance is episode 13, where he makes a brief cameo, grinning his face off. In the manga, he shows up at some point to help Integral, although I don't know much about that

[Dick Nation]

Faggotry follows Sephiroth everywhere he goes, but you have to admit that driving a sword as long as you are tall through a praying flower girl's back...

:(

Also, for anyone talking about DKSA, you're completing forgetting that it sucked as a whole. Really, really badly.

[Chuki]

I'm currently buying the Rurouni Kenshin manga, and I must say it has one of the best casts I've ever seen in any form of media. I have always been fond of the "Hero" characters, but Kenshin is perhaps one the most unique examples of how you can make a troubled hero without making him an angsty fool. I like when a character simbolizes something more than the classic "good" or "bad" archetypes. Kenshin, in my opinion, is the entire visualization of an important age in japanese history, when a young nation was trying to leave the past and get into a peaceful, modern age... and it sadly failed, as it is told at the end of the Kyoto Arc.

Also, It has some undeniably cool villians: The Cold Assassin type is well executed by Soujiro (My favorite character so far). He's a trumatized person, but instead of dealing with his memories becoming an angsty and moaning bitch, he hides those emotions behind an innocent, "I don't kill a fly", look. His cold nature, the fact that he knows he's strong, and yet he does not give a shit about it because that kind of emotion would ruin his fighting skills, makes him one of the best villians ever.

Oh, and the Shun Ten Satsu > Amakakeru Ryuu No Hirameki :D

[Gavok]

I just remembered another archetype I love, though it goes back to the redemption thing. Violent, usually hot-headed heroes who, over time and development, learn to become better off. Guys like Guy Gardner, Juggernaut, Magog and Eradicator.

Eradicator was my favorite part of the famous Death and Return of Superman/Reign of Supermen storyline. Basically, he was an AI energy being created to protect Kryptonian culture. Long story short, after Supes died, Eradicator visited the body and ended up absorbing Superman's DNA and traces of his memories and personality. He started to believe that he really was Superman and tried to act like how he figured Superman would/should act.

Not to say he was close to right. He was always frowning, he told Lois that he would never be Clark Kent again, he killed muggers and even when a burglar told him how it wouldn't make sense to kill him, Eradicator shattered every bone in the guy's hands. Fittingly, Guy Gardner went on to say, "If he isn't the real deal, he should be."

So then he decided to go after all the other pretenders, wearing the S shield symbol and claiming to be Superman. He confronted Steel, who said that he never claimed to be Superman. He just wore the symbol because it was in tribute to the man he believed in. Eradicator thought there was nothing wrong with that and was going to leave him alone, but then they got into an argument about Eradicator's maiming and killing of criminals and those who irked him.

They came to blows and Steel eventually got a strong advantage. Still, it was apparent for both sides that Eradicator was more powerful and that once he got his bearings, Steel was done for. But Steel continued to lay into him as Eradicator just wondered why he would be stupid enough to do this. But then Eradicator realized Steel's bravery and that he was right. Eradicator still believed he was Superman, but he believed that Steel acted the way Superman should act. He flew off and gave him his blessing to protect Metropolis.

The next time Eradicator showed up in the arc, he had saved Coast City from some disaster. While he and some cops had an exchange about it, you could see that Eradicator was finally smiling like Superman. I thought that was a really nice touch.

That was right about when the shit hit the fan, though. Cyborg Superman destroyed Eradicator's body and then blew up Coast City.

[Titanium Beast!]

I can always go for the roughousing, troublemaking type of character. You know, the bruiser type. Shen Woo is an excellent example. I always enjoy watching some psycho who loves to get in the thick of it. Very entertaining.

Just to clarify a little, I don't necessarily like completely psychotic characters, say, like Yamazaki. I just like the fighting type. I prefer that they fight with raw guts most of the time; I can appreciate fancy and skillful techniques, but I always enjoy someone who can just rip up shit with bare-fisted bluster.

[GEL]

GEL: I approve. This game be on the Dreamcast, you say? I'll google up some more info. Looks interesting, and I do need something to take the edge off my mech fix, now that I've given up on Armored Core.
Yes. All the mechs are based on various animes (there's even a damn good Valkyrie rip off, complete with Gerwalk mode!) and have multiple branching story paths and endings.

Jin and Blodia is also an unlockable character (though he gets no Story mode).

Gameplay is best described as "If Capcom made Evil Zone only better". It's simplistic and not something that could be played competitively or anything (Diana-17 would own the cast with her 1337 running skillz), but if you like Giant Robot Anime it's a must play.

...and how can you not love a game that actually says "Bishoujo Senshi Roboto! Diana-17!"

[Photon]

Kensyu: Yes, they have great backstories. No, those backstories were not executed/displayed to optimal effect. But then, Vandread's a pretty picky topic with me, so I'll be quiet, now.

And it's Gasconge. :smalltran
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Gascogne

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Now that I think of it, I like the crazy, overpowered type more than the generally angsty, often one-goal type. For example, I like O.Iori more than normal Iori, and Devil Jin more than Jin. I don't like all "evil" transitions though (e.g. O.Leona. E.Ryu, etc.). The mysterious, "concealing their true power" type (ONFT, Mr. Karate) is okay by me as well.

[Me fail english? That's unpossible]

Nevermind It was too much

[GEL]

That I can look back at it and say HAHAHAHA He Blah Blah.
I nominate this for Greatest Sentance of All Time.

[Me fail english? That's unpossible]

Ah friigg I typed a load stuff just now and I cant get it back thanks to Yahoo on this forsaken computer. I am not at home based while typing this.

[TODE]

I will never, for the life of me, understand why Dan Hibiki still has fans past 1996.His "can do"spirit meshs well with his "can't do" fighting style. It's fun to beat people with Dan because it means you totally outclass them. :D

What typically makes a character memorable for me is a unique personality or fighting style that sets them apart from other characters in the game. In Tekken 5, Asuka has that high-spirited defender-of-good thing going on, which isn't unique in itself (she might as well be a Power Ranger) but in her game she is the only character with those traits. Xiaoyu has always endeared herself to me with her unusual fighting style and amusing storylines (though I could have done without her pre-fight "HEEEEEEEEEEEH?" intro 'cuz it turns people against her :( ).

Sometimes all it takes is good dialogue or a voice actor. To me, SC2 Yoshimitsu's English voice-actor totally makes that character work, sounding like an old foppish British actor at times. And there is the King of All Cosmos from Katamari Damacy, whose language is so alien it sounds like record scratching but the dialogue is elegant and often perverse ("We want you to make a yummy cancer!").

[TODE]

As for any kind of "guidelines", for men basically don't look like Gackt and don't act like Squall. For women, don't be anyone from Love Hina.

[TODE]

In short, yeah I like joke characters, freaks, ninjas, and little girls ^_^I like all these things too, but probably not as much as you. (I guess Kuma counts as a freak.)

[GEL]

I like all these things too, but probably not as much as you. (I guess Kuma counts as a freak.)
XD What can I say? I like characters I can relate to

...or want to marry, like miss Makihara over here.


On that note I've revised my list. If I had to pick only 2 women in any videogame, anime, or manga it would easily be Manga Misty and Arina Makihara....but 3 is a better number so Pupa Salguero too ^_^

[GEL]

and besides, bad asses have been done to death! Sure every game has to have a large number of them and all and I respect that, but I greatly appreciate character variety.

This is probably the main reason why I'm not that fond of The Rumble Fish. Sure the game engien is said to be amazing and deep and great and all that, but the game has no fucking personality! All the men are smug badasses and all the women are smug/depressed/angry and sultry! Even little Mito is more sultry than she is cute (she's also flatter than any little girls that I'd like)!

side note: I HATE smug.

Even Virtua Fighter has more personality! I swear!

Sure you've got Bao-Wannabe and Totally-Not-The-Old-Guy-From-Last-Blade, but...no. Those are just...no.

[TODE]

I like characters I can relate to or want to marrySo where do the little girls fit in?

WHAT DO YOU WANT WITH CHIYO-CHAN YOU MONSTER

[kensyu]

Gameplay is best described as "If Capcom made Evil Zone only better". It's simplistic and not something that could be played competitively or anything (Diana-17 would own the cast with her 1337 running skillz), but if you like Giant Robot Anime it's a must play.



Actually I play the game competitively before =p The highest tier is not Diana 17 it's the macross Ripoff due to his land mines to combo and special. Also his landmines are fairly cheap when well used. Second is Diana-17 and the Mazinger ripoff =p.

[GEL]

So where do the little girls fit in?

WHAT DO YOU WANT WITH CHIYO-CHAN YOU MONSTER
XD I can relate to hyperactive little girls.

Actually I play the game competitively before =p The highest tier is not Diana 17 it's the macross Ripoff due to his land mines to combo and special. Also his landmines are fairly cheap when well used. Second is Diana-17 and the Mazinger ripoff =p.
Oh! You mean the OTHER Macross character? The Wise Duck, the one that can't jump? Hmm I guess I could see it.

...but then again did the Diana-17 user ever try just running into the damng background? My freind did that and I could NOT catch up with him. Hit & run, just like the old guy from SamShoZero.


...and who teh hell broke the [size=1] tab! I like that dammit!

[TODE]

What are you talking about?

[GEL]

What are you talking about?
Is it just me or something? When something is in size=1 it's bigger than the normal text!

[TODE]

If it's the case, that's what I would call a subtle AA.

[GEL]

If it's the case, that's what I would call a subtle AA.
XD probably.

[Me fail english? That's unpossible]

I remember some of what I posted.

For Animation including Live action:

If the character relates to me or the world that the character live in is convincing then I would surely remember them

Ranma

CapCom Specials

Conan

Mad Max

Lupin

For Games:

If the character gives action+art I would remember them for sure.

Sasuke.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:FM8yHmLNFAMJ:http://www.gameforms.com http://www.nintendoland.com/reviews/n64/goemon_3.jpg
This guy should have been the star of I-ninja. In Mystical Ninja he goes YYEEAAAAHH or something like that when he blasts off. he blames the explosion of the house on the badguys when it was his fault. when you leave him alone he drinks green tea. He can freeze enemies like sub-zero. I would instantly buy a game with this character alone.



http://www.videogamecritic.net/images/t16/bonk's_adventure.gifhttp://www.s1.hashmirror.com/ftp/pub/gallery/tak-fall.jpg http://exotica.fix.no/gallery/games/images/c/ChuckRock2CD32.jpg http://www.juegomania.org/emuladores/snes/0/465.jpg
Bonk/Chuck rock/Tak/DinoCity. All my life when I enter the Arcades I see various Games but what really caught my eyes was the Dinosaur+cave man games. Just thinking about them makes me excited even if most of them are meaningless. Oh how I wish they would just make a Bedrock Bottom game based on the following titles all wraped up in some kind of wonder bundle.

Lakitu from Super Mario. Lakitu info (http://www.mariomonsters.com/lakitu/) http://www.nintendoland.com/deathmatches/lakitu_vs_hammer_brother.jpg
http://www.classicgaming.com/tmk/mariopedia/trophy/lakitu.jpghttp://www.mariomonsters.com/lakitu/Lakitu01.jpghttp://www.classicgaming.com/tmk/images/mparty5/mparty5_lakitu_capsule.jpg He lures you with his Fishing rod. Steals baby mario by the hook. Throws spikeys from the skys in super Stalk the plumber till he reach the check point mode. Bombbard Yoshi with exploding Spikeys. In the Super Show he had Specs on instead of goggles and took no lip nobody.
His shell has always been a cool Spirial design with gold plating.
You could never ambush him in SMRPG unless you were really high and if you did found some way in the early areas you would fight a thunder jolting item throwing maniac.

Conker no need for reason

Yoshi no need for reason

Etc Fighting Chracters Display action and art everytime they appear.

[kensyu]

Oh! You mean the OTHER Macross character? The Wise Duck, the one that can't jump? Hmm I guess I could see it.

...but then again did the Diana-17 user ever try just running into the damng background? My freind did that and I could NOT catch up with him. Hit & run, just like the old guy from SamShoZero.


No not that the bue one and yellow one. It's also good at hit and run fire mines gerwalk mode shoot and run -_-. I beat everyone with diana-17 but always get defeated with the cheap mines of of it (I do a hell good air combo that nearly guarantees armor break ^o^)

[TODE]

XD probably."XD" is probably next.

[GEL]

"XD" is probably next.
I'd assume but I just think someone is being a homo with this :P

[~Milliardo~]

This thread is like a FAQ for why you guys all ignore me! If I ever forget, someone just link this thread in my face.

[Mr. Rottweiler]

I have something far worse (http://www.deadjournal.com/users/nerezza/52784.html).

[~Milliardo~]

I have something far worse (http://www.deadjournal.com/users/nerezza/52784.html).
That one doesn't bother me in the least. Go ahead, spread the love.

[Frankie Foster]

No not that the bue one and yellow one. It's also good at hit and run fire mines gerwalk mode shoot and run -_-. I beat everyone with diana-17 but always get defeated with the cheap mines of of it (I do a hell good air combo that nearly guarantees armor break ^o^)

The Rafaga. And I prefer it in all black :)

Anyways you're apparently talking about its floating mines, not the Wiseduck's land mines. C'mon, those mines do crap damage :\

[Lupin]

I am a fan mostly of characters with the "bad ass" approach to things
such as Jesse Custer(Preacher), Nick Fury, Frank Castle(Punisher)

[kensyu]

The Rafaga. And I prefer it in all black :)

Anyways you're apparently talking about its floating mines, not the Wiseduck's land mines. C'mon, those mines do crap damage :\

Yeah that's the one, the mines do crap but the follow up is a bitch 6hit punch to super. This even workable from a far if you can control Rafaga well enough to shift mode quickly -_-

[Negative Nancy]

Well to me there actions the fact no matter how frustrating Dinosaur Planet was it was sure worth is to see FOX continuesly go ugh after almost anything. Then when he and Dino kid fought the first boss where I was just waiting for him to do that Diddy Kong Jump Eye. The end was like Whats her name gotta pay back Fox some way......BBbBiiiiiooqqoooyyyaaiiigggg...we can all imagine it.

[Baofu]

Per usual, no one knows what the HELL you're saying, Regufuck.

[Hit Parade]

I swear, Regal must have one of those chickenscratch squiggly things from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends for a brain.